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Remote control lawn mower DIY by Jake_Dragon
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Report this Post07-11-2010 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
Anyone ever do this? I have a box full of old remote control cars so the control part is taken care of.
I was thinking why couldn't they be adapted to a couple of old starter motors to push my lawn mower around. The front wheels would have to be replaced with casters. The rear wheels would be a direct drive, they already have the notches in the wheels and are large. If you put a motor on each wheel you could steer it.

Sounds simple. SO would it be too hard to control with a simple on off type control for the motors? Would the starter motors run in reverse? Should I uses some other motor that I can control the speed better?

So Jake why are you so lazy that you cant push your lawn mower around. Well guys I have a hard time breathing after mowing just half the yard. The dust and grass dust is so bad here in Florida that I cant stand to mow, if I could sit in the driveway and steer the mower around or even stand a few feet away from it I could avoid most of the dust.
Why not just pay someone to mow the grass? Ha let me ask you this, who works on your Fiero? If your like me you don't want anyone else touching your stuff.

This could be fun, I have only thought of this for about an hour and I already have the front wheels figured out and will be able to install them right away, even if I don't put the remote part on the mower it will make what I have now turn better as it will have turning front wheels instead of fixed wheels.
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Never done it, but have wanted to forever.

Here's a couple of people who have done it:

http://members.iinet.net.au...pshow/RCLM/intro.htm


http://www.instructables.co...rduino-RC-Lawnmower/
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If the dust is what is causing you the problem, get a 99cent face mask? Its cheaper

I don't see why you cant make one, plenty have ( like the above pictures ) and you can buy self steering robot mowers. Just be sure you have all the bases covered for safety. Don't want ti running amok mowing down kids or pets if it gets away from you.
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Yes those were my inspiration but I was going to try and make it more compact. I will have to keep my eye out for a used (Free) lawn mower. They are always getting thrown away around here when they quit working. Most of the time its just a spark plug or air cleaner issue.

My current mower already has the large back wheels, I think those will give me the best gearing for a direct drive mounted on the tires. I just need to figure out what to use for the motors. I wonder if Fiero head light motors would work? I don't think they turn fast enough to push the mower around the yard.

My current mower has a dead mans switch, I could use it with a switch on the electric motors in case it runs off on me. Just install a trip wire around the yard to kill the motors if it hits it. That will also keep the kids out of the yard at night LOL
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I ways wanted to but never did. I was going to use a Electric Wheelchair .

HEH I just click on 1st link. I saw Electric Wheelchair.. Go figer

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Originally posted by User00013170:

If the dust is what is causing you the problem, get a 99cent face mask? Its cheaper


I cant stand the masks, I do use them but after a few minutes they make it so hard to breath that I just remove them.
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The simplest remote-control mower I ever built was a self-propelled craftsman, 100 feet of nylon rope, and a couple of screw-in-the-ground pet leash anchors.

Tie the rope to the lawnmower and one of the anchors, stick the second one a couple feet away so the rope will wind around the 2 of them, fire it up, engage the self-ropell drive, and sit back sucking a beer while it doeas its thing and spirals inward.

Ya still have to trim up the corners and the center where the stakes were, but that only takes a couple minutes
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Yes those were my inspiration but I was going to try and make it more compact. I will have to keep my eye out for a used (Free) lawn mower. They are always getting thrown away around here when they quit working. Most of the time its just a spark plug or air cleaner issue.

My current mower already has the large back wheels, I think those will give me the best gearing for a direct drive mounted on the tires. I just need to figure out what to use for the motors. I wonder if Fiero head light motors would work? I don't think they turn fast enough to push the mower around the yard.

My current mower has a dead mans switch, I could use it with a switch on the electric motors in case it runs off on me. Just install a trip wire around the yard to kill the motors if it hits it. That will also keep the kids out of the yard at night LOL


I also doubt the headlight motors would be strong enough for drive, but they might be ok for steering. If you get lucky, you might find a dead self propelled and have 1/2 the work already done done.. Just add steering up front and the radio and you are done. Or even better, a dead tractor.. Sure it would be big and huge unless you cut it down to get rid of the extras ( like seat, etc ) but it already steers

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

The simplest remote-control mower I ever built was a self-propelled craftsman, 100 feet of nylon rope, and a couple of screw-in-the-ground pet leash anchors.

Tie the rope to the lawnmower and one of the anchors, stick the second one a couple feet away so the rope will wind around the 2 of them, fire it up, engage the self-ropell drive, and sit back sucking a beer while it doeas its thing and spirals inward.

Ya still have to trim up the corners and the center where the stakes were, but that only takes a couple minutes


Or a single pole ( like for a tether ball ) and mount the rope in the center of the mower and even perhaps angle the front wheels so it wont drag across your yard. Of cousre if you are like me and have actual plants and trees in your yard, that wont work.
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Originally posted by billpapps:

I ways wanted to but never did. I was going to use a Electric Wheelchair .


Thats what the other guys are doing. They just replace the rear wheels with the power chair drive and rig up a remote interface.
I want to make something that I can pull the handle and attach to the existing mower.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6899345.html
Something like this only I want to reuse the existing wheel and adjustment levers.

Or this setup!
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Jake, IZa Gona hunt ya down if you get me back into RCs,,,Got me thinking about this mower.
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Depending on the size of your yard, You might be able to make a remote controlled mower (as opposed to radio controlled). Have a wired controller attached from a high central location (tree, flagpole, etc) Wouldn't need batteries in this case. WOuld hafta make sure the mower couldn't run over the wire, though...
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:

Depending on the size of your yard, You might be able to make a remote controlled mower (as opposed to radio controlled). Have a wired controller attached from a high central location (tree, flagpole, etc) Wouldn't need batteries in this case. WOuld hafta make sure the mower couldn't run over the wire, though...


I have wired electric, and ya its a lot easier said then done to not run over the cord.
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If Jake has a remote-controlled mower, he can use it while sitting in the Corvette, making vroom vroom noises. What a deal!
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Originally posted by heybjorn:

If Jake has a remote-controlled mower, he can use it while sitting in the Corvette, making vroom vroom noises. What a deal!


My wife wants me to make a body that looks like a car.


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Ok so i have a


This is how I want the rear steering to work. This will also allow me to turn the mower and line it up with the cut I just made.

It seems to me that the ones on line are going way to fast, one of them was popping wheelies. They would be hard to catch if something went wrong and they would be hard to control. I want something that has a lot of TQ but speed isn't what I am after. It needs to go about the same speed as me walking behind it. I think a tethered kill switch would be good, its much harder for a simple mechanical switch to fail then to depend on electronics to stop it from mowing the neighbors flowers or worse.

For controls I was thinking of something as simple as the automotive electric windows, just use relays instead of switches. Because its not moving fast a simple on off switch shouldn't be that hard to control. Plus I have a parts car with working switches and motors.

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Get an old FlyMo and build it hovercraft-style .......IIRC, those were even commercially avaialable in the UK a few years ago.
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Jake...... THIS IS AWESOME!!!

I have never seen this before and I WANT ONE!!! I had a couple ideas right off the bat. I think you are on the right track with the tractor/tank drive. Only problem is where can you get the track from cheap? Another thought is that I had bought one of those barbie jeeps for my kids awhile back. It is pretty stout for what it is and pushed both my kids easily around the yard. They are not a little older and I bought them a gas powered quadrunner so the barbie just sits. It comes with a battery and charger unit. Perhaps it could be torn down and used for this project? I am thinking a welded frame and simple remote control unit from an RC car and some ingenuity and you would be sitting in the lawn chair sippin pina coladas mowing the lawn in no time? I have a very nice Craftsman mower here that I really like and it is very powerful but I always regretted not anteing up for a rider, only problem is that I do not have the room for one so I got the self propelled mower instead. I would love to have a Rc mower that would allow me to remove the handle which would make storing it even easier.... A tractor drive is the way to go here and I saw a video on youtube of a frame that was kinda wider with a single pivoting wheel in front. That would make turning that much easier and as long as it was wide enough should be plenty stable..... There are actually several that way on youtube. This kinda project is right up my alley man and I for one am excited about trying this..... peace

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Get an old FlyMo and build it hovercraft-style .......IIRC, those were even commercially avaialable in the UK a few years ago.


There was another 'flying mower' thingie back in teh 80s i think. electric only. Saw it on some infomercial when i was in highschool.
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Just made an offer on an electric wheel chair. If its still for sale it will give me the drive and wheels. I may even be able to use the controller.
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Originally posted by fierofetish:


http://www.classic-lawns.co...og/hover_mowers.html
Nick


Ya, this was what i was thinking of:

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Ok I guess this will get done. I have some great ideas just need to see what happens first. There is a power chair place on the way home from work, I will stop in and see what they do with old chairs. I will also keep my eyes open for a free lawn mower to get a deck to work with so I don't have to use my existing lawn mower.
The hover mower is a good idea, it would keep the total weight down but it would also not be as effective as a heavy steel blade as Florida grass is pretty thick and hard to cut.
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Jake, those flymo's have a triple steel blade, which also doubles as the impeller to lift the flymo.
Can I make a suggestion here? Three-wheeler Replace the two front 'steering' wheels with a single centre-mounted wheel, steerd by a 'boat tiller' set-up. MUCH easier to control, and set up, IMHO. Only need two motors then...one to drive it, and one to operate the steering tiller/arm. I'll do a little diagram in Paint
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Use a windscreen wiper motor for the steering
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For steering I think having both drive wheels turn independent of each other. The front wheels will be free to pivot like most self propelled mowers are now. To turn I just shut power off to the side I want to turn into and the other side will power the wheel around. This will pivot the mower on the wheel and line it up for the next path I want to cut. This is how most wheel chairs work and may save me some time finding a drive train if I can find a used wheel chair. I already found one on line if they still have it. If not then I have other ideas. I already have some tubing to make the frame out of.

Think of the Zero Turn Mowers.

Here is one you can buy now in Tampa of all places.
http://www.dailymotion.com/...lawn-mower-news_news
http://www.dailymotion.com/...ntrol-lawn-mowe_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/...lawn-mower-news_news
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BUT...how will you drive the blades with that system??
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Basic lawn mower with a independent drive system. The blades will run off the gas engine and the drive will be electric.
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Don't like mowing, simple answer, rent a goat. When it's full, take it back and get another one.

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Don't like mowing, simple answer, rent a goat. When it's full, take it back and get another one.

Ron


LOL my wife wants one. She thinks it will eat the car parts I have stored in the yard
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This is how you mow a tomb:
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Don't like mowing, simple answer, rent a goat. When it's full, take it back and get another one.

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LOL my wife wants one. She thinks it will eat the car parts I have stored in the yard


Then just do what we do. Tie the goats collar to a dog line screw. Then move the screw when he is done. Mows and fertilizes at the same time.

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Then just do what we do. Tie the goats collar to a dog line screw. Then move the screw when he is done. Mows and fertilizes at the same time.

Steve



Somewhere, I just know there's a joke in that quote.
But, I just can't bring myself to say it.

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The wife brought home an old lawn mower yesterday. I had to clean out the carburetor and it was leaking real bad. I fixed it and got it running.
Now do I fix it up and gift it so I don't have to keep loaning mine or do I go all Frankenstein on it.

What do you think I will do?

I was reading up and someone suggested using old windshield wiper motors. They already have a gear box and are made to run for hours at a time in all kinds of weather.
I just happen to have two different kind of motors sitting here. Oh what to do
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If you have to steer a remote control mower using a joystick or other such device, what's the difference if you just sit on a riding mower and steer?
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If you have to steer a remote control mower using a joystick or other such device, what's the difference if you just sit on a riding mower and steer?


As long as you had a decent view of you yard (bay window, etc) with a RC mower, you could mow from your Air Conditioned living room...
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If you have to steer a remote control mower using a joystick or other such device, what's the difference if you just sit on a riding mower and steer?


Cool factor?
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